Did Spanish Authorities Stage the 2017 Barcelona Jihad Attack? By Robert Spencer
Monday, January 17, 2022
Jihad Watch : My latest in PJ Media: The allegations were made in Spain, but they have implications for
the United States and the entire Western world.
Jose Manuel Villarejo,
who was at the time a senior officer in Spain’s National Police Corps,
has made a startling allegation: he claimed Wednesday that the vehicular
attack in Barcelona on Aug. 17, 2017, was staged by the country’s
National Intelligence Service (CNI) in order to discourage Catalonians
from voting for independence in a referendum that was then upcoming.
The attack was horrifying. A man named Younes Abouyaaqoub drove a
van into a crowd of people on La Rambla in Barcelona, murdering 13 and
injuring at least 130. According to Scotland’s The National,
“five members of the jihadist cell launched a knife attack on the
beachfront at Cambrils, having driven there the day after the Barcelona
attack. All five men were shot dead by police. Three men who helped in
the attacks were last year sentenced to jail terms of between eight and
53 years. It later emerged that the alleged mastermind of the attacks,
an imam in the city of Ripoll, was a CNI informant.”
Despite the attack and the threat of instability it brought,
Catalonia voted overwhelmingly for independence anyway. However, its bid
for independence was ultimately declared void under heavy pressure from
the Spanish government.
Was that government tied to the Barcelona attack by more than just an
informant? Villarejo, who participated in many “secret” CNI operations,
said that the attack was a brainchild of the agency, in “a bid to
destabilise Catalonia” so that the Spanish province would vote against
independence. Villarejo asserted that the attacks were conceived by the
former director of the CNI, Félix Sanz Roldán, but “were a serious
mistake.” Sanz Roldán, said Villarejo, “wanted to give Catalonia a
fright, but miscalculated the consequences.”
Villarejo declared that he had documentary proof of his charges. “All
the evidence is in my archives. I authorize their release. We must
think that the citizenry is not a minor and the law of secrets cannot be
used to hide everything. It is an obsolete Francoist law from 1968”
that keeps such state documents from being released, he said.
Catalan President Pere Aragonès reacted angrily to Villarejo’s
allegations, saying that the Barcelona attack was “a barbarity that has
marked us forever. And if Villarejo’s words are true, explanations are
needed now. We know very well how the state sewers work, so we demand
that they be investigated in order to clarify the truth. I have also
asked the legal services of the Generalitat [government] to study these
statements and the relevant legal actions that can be taken. For the
truth. For the victims, for the Catalans and for all those who are on
the side of peace and democracy.” Catalan Vice President Jordi Puigneró
has also demanded an investigation. There is more.
us put this claim to test. There is a hadith that reports that one
night, Muhammad rode on a winged horse that drove him from Masjidu’l
Haram to Masjidu’l Aqsa (in Jerusalem) and from there to the seventh
heaven where he was shown the Hell and the Paradise
and then taken to the presence of Allah. This story that is commonly
accepted by all Muslims and is known as Mi’raj is also confirmed in the
Glory to (Allah) Who did take His Servant for a journey by night, From the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque. — Quran 17:1
Here we are not going to question the absurdity of such trip.
Considering that it would take light (the fastest thing in the universe)
8 years to make a round trip to the closest solar system, and 30
billion years [now at least 46 billion years] to the outskirts of the
known universe, and considering that wings don’t serve beyond the
atmosphere of the Earth, such a trip performed on the back of a horse
with wings in one night is just stuff of the fables. If Muhammad could
travel from Medina to the presence of Allah, riding on a winged pony,
and come back in one night, then Allah’s palace must be not much far
from Medina. I wonder how come no one has found it yet?
inside the universe or outside of it? If inside it, then he is contained
by it and therefore cannot be infinite. If outside it, then he must be
billions of light years away from us and no winged horsy can reach his
throne in one night and come back. And if He is omnipresent, like air in
the atmosphere, then one does not need to go anywhere to meet Him. God
must be where you are right now. This story is simply fairytale.
are not also going to ask whether the gate of the heaven is in
Jerusalem? Why did Muhammad have to go to Masjidul’ Aqsa in order to go
The biggest problem with this story is that the
Masjid’ul Aqsa “Farthest Mosque” was built after the death of Muhammad.
The problem we want to discuss is that Masjid’ul Aqsa “the Farthest
Mosque” did not exist at the time of Muhammad.
First Temple on
that site was built in 960 BC, allegedly by Solomon to house the Ark of
the Covenant which his father, David, had brought to Jerusalem. The first temple was burned to the ground by the Babylonians in 586 BC. The Second Temple was consecrated in 515 BC, rebuilt by Herod in 20 BC and destroyed by Titus in 70 AD.
Romans in 70 AD destroyed that temple. Since then no temple, church or
mosque stood on that spot. When Caliph Omar Ibn al-Khattab conquered
Jerusalem in 638 AD, he performed a prayer in the site where Temple of
Solomon used to stand. It was Calif ‘Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan who built
the Dome of the Rock around 691 A.D. i.e 72 years after Hijrah. And
Masjidu’l Aqsa was built on the Temple Mount by the end of the 7th
century. Muhammad’s alleged Mi’raj took place around the year 621. There
is 70 years gap between Mi’raj and the construction of Masjid ul Aqsa.
This is reported in The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row,
1989, p. 46 and 102.
Muhammad’s alleged Mi’raj took place around the year 622. At that
time Jerusalem was in the hands of the Christians. There were no Muslims
living there and certainly there was no Mosque in Jerusalem. 53 years
after the death of Muhammad, Muslims built the Dome of the Rock and the
Al Aqsa on the site where Solomon had his temple.
been the author of the verse 17:1 of the Quran, he was not aware that
Masjid ul Aqsa did not exist during the time of Muhammad and he could
not have made his trip to heaven from a place that did not exist.
One comparison makes this point most clearly: Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times and Zion (which usually means Jerusalem, sometimes the Land of Israel) 154 times, or 823 times in all. The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154 times and Zion 7 times.
In contrast, the columnist Moshe Kohn notes, Jerusalem and Zion appear as frequently in the Qur'an "as they do in the Hindu Bhagavad-Gita, the Taoist Tao-Te Ching, the Buddhist Dhamapada and the Zoroastrian Zend Avesta"—which is to say, not once.
Malaysiakini : “The fall of one regime does not bring in a utopia. Rather, it
opens the way for hard work and long efforts to build more just social,
economic and political relationships and the eradication of other forms
of injustices and oppression.” - Gene Sharp, "From Dictatorship to Democracy"
A recently retired diplomat who worked for BN, Pakatan Harapan and
limped along for Perikatan Nasional, posed the question which is the
title of this piece.
We have to ask, who is doing the hoping,
here? When Harapan political operatives talk about how Malaysians voted
for “change” this was not really reflected in who the majority of
Malaysians voted for.
However elections have consequences and the fact that Harapan could
have carried out a reform agenda but chose not to, is now being framed
as Harapan did not have much time or to blame Dr Mahathir Mohamad.
in mind that Harapan political operatives were assuring everyone that
they had methods to restrain the old maverick before the election. But
you know what, and this is the dirty little secret, there were many
Harapan non-Malay political operatives who actually approved of Mahathir
and were sceptical of Anwar Ibrahim.
Jihad Watch : Many Muslims in India claim to be citizens with equal rights, but
when the time for the institutionalization of equality presents itself,
they take steps against equality and rush to protect their privilege.
It’s the privilege no one talks about: Muslim privilege.
India finds itself torn in the debate around the Uniform Civil Code
(UCC). The UCC is a proposal to formulate and implement secular personal
laws which would apply equally to all citizens, regardless of their
religion. You have already guessed which community largely opposes it.
Back in 2019 and 2020, when the CAA was introduced, and talks
regarding the National Register of Citizens (NRC) had gained momentum,
Muslims from all walks of life demanded that Muslims from the countries
neighboring India be included in both the acts. Their demands were
rooted in the claim of being “equal citizens” of India. Inflammatory
speeches by Muslim activists led to anti-Hindu riots in the capital
However, Muslim religious and social bodies can now be seen making a
full reversal on their much-touted “equality as an Indian” claims, and
have aggressively opposed any progress towards the implementation of the
UCC. They want to be treated differently and lead their lives as per
Islamic law, despite being citizens of a secular republic. Leaders of
political parties catering to Muslim interests, Muslim activists accused
of inciting riots, and “elites” from the entertainment industry have
unanimously denounced the UCC and are fiercely safeguarding their Muslim
The All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) rejected the Law
Commission’s questionnaire on the UCC and decided to boycott it. The
AIMPLB General Secretary, Maulana Wali Rehmani, viewed the UCC as
divisive and claimed that it would lead to unrest in the country. He
stated: “It is against the spirit of the Constitution, which safeguards
the right of citizens to practice their culture and religion.” Part IV
of the Indian Constitution lists the Directive Principles of State
Policy, under which Article 44 declares, “The State shall endeavour to
secure for the citizens a UCC throughout the territory of India.”
In 2017, Maulana Arshad Madni, the President of Jamaat-e-Islami,
said, “The Muslim Personal Law is based on Quran and Hadith and we
cannot alter it,” and accused Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi of
trying to “impose dictatorship in the name of democracy.” Recently, a television personality, Gauahar Khan, lost her temper on a
Twitter user who questioned the separate set of laws for Muslims.
Calling the Twitter user a “loser,” Khan said, “I’m a Muslim, and nobody
can ban us from having our rights, India is secular, it’s a democracy,
not a dictatorship like u would desire!”
Her bigoted tweet was challenged by a Supreme Court advocate who
educated her on the factual implication of rights in a democracy and
emphasized that barbaric Islamic practices such as nikah halala or muta
marriages have no place in a modern democracy. Khan, who had once
claimed that “in Islam, the woman is described at not above nor below a
man, it’s next to him, so she can be close to his heart,” couldn’t find
an explanation for the pre-medieval practices that the lawyer listed.
It is safe to conclude that this dissent towards the proposed law
stems from a dominating sense of entitlement that has been engendered by
the Muslim-pandering parties that have been governing India for 70
years. There are many religious minorities in India, including
Christians and Sikhs. There are micro-minorities such as Jains,
Buddhists and Zoroastrians as well. But the privilege that comes with
belonging to a minority community has remained reserved for the
second-largest religious group in the country, the Muslims. And it may
be politically incorrect, but is nonetheless true that the maximum
resistance to any of the government’s policies directed at restoring
equality of rights of all people before the law comes from only one
Many Muslims want their obsolete practices to continue. Let the
Muslim man have four wives at once. While the minimum age requirement
for a woman to marry in India is 18, Muslim political leaders keep
asserting that a Muslim woman can get married as soon as she reaches
puberty. Then she can start procreating and serve the goal of dominating
the nation demographically. If government policies contradict this
privilege, they will be detested as an interference with Islamic law.
Interestingly, these Muslims in India want to be tried as per Islamic
rules concerning “personal law” only. They do not support the full
implementation of Islamic law for Muslims in India, which would include
the amputation of hands for theft and robbery.
In the infamous 2012 Delhi gang-rape, 17-year-old Mohammed Afroz was
found to be the most brutal of all the convicts. He had inserted a
metal rod in the victim’s private parts and pulled out her intestines.
But the secular law protected this “minor,” who was sentenced to only
three years in prison (the maximum imprisonment for a minor according to
the law at that time), giving him a cash award, a change of identity,
and a job after his release. Muslims don’t invoke Islamic law in such
cases, because that would mean the death penalty for such an offender,
regardless of his age.
You get the idea: call for the application of
secular law when secular law protects Muslims, and rally behind Islamic
law when Islamic law furthers Muslim interests.
Jihad Watch : Fear of discovery. “CAIR Drops Lawsuit Against Whistleblower,” IPT News, January 10, 2022:
A former employee who alleged rampant sexual
discrimination and harassment inside the Council on American-Islamic
Relations (CAIR) was using “disturbingly false allegations” in a
“systemic and continuous internet smear campaign” to get people to stop
donating to, or working with the organization, CAIR said in a lawsuit
filed last spring.
Lori Saroya’s “public lies are damaging CAIR and the American Muslim
community in ways that are significant and long lasting,” CAIR’s lawsuit
claimed. But CAIR may have seen that damage as less harmful than a
discovery process which could expose organizational secrets.
CAIR abruptly filed a stipulation to dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice,
meaning it cannot be refiled, on Friday. CAIR had told the federal
court in Minnesota that it would file an amended complaint by then.
Throughout the fall, the two sides fought over CAIR’s refusal to
answer a series of defense interrogatories. While CAIR claimed it had
provided much of the information, some requests “were interposed solely
to annoy, oppress, harass and unduly burden CAIR.”
The resulting discovery, Saroya’s attorneys argued,
would show she was not lying about “sexual harassment, gender
discrimination, retaliation against those who raised these issues, gross
financial mismanagement, disregard of basic governance requirements and
duplicity about its raising of foreign funds, and at whether CAIR has
been disingenuous with its Board, donors, chapters and volunteers, as
well as the Muslim community at large.”
For example, CAIR objected to
her request for internal investigative reports involving misconduct
within CAIR’s national chapters because they “are distinct from the
But Saroya already produced a sampling of internal communications which challenged CAIR’s assertion. In her initial response to CAIR’s lawsuit, Saroya claimed that
Executive Director Nihad Awad nixed the Dallas chapter’s decision to
hire a non-Muslim to run the chapter. Awad “found her to be not
pro-Palestine enough and [indicated] that her writing on domestic
violence was ‘vulgar and disgusting.'”
Awad “threatened to dis-affiliate” the Dallas chapter if the job offer was not rescinded. To keep the incident from becoming public, a CAIR staff attorney
suggested paying the applicant $10,000 in two payments spaced five
months apart, “with a non-disclosure agreement.”
“The most serious risk she presents right now is in the form of
public pressure and defamatory speech against” the Dallas-Fort Worth
chapter, Danette Zaghari-Mask wrote. CAIR, Saroya’s response claimed,
“spends substantial amounts of donors’ money in order to threaten,
intimidate and sue those who have the courage to speak about CAIR’s
culture of discrimination and misogyny,” and pay settlements in exchange
for their silence.
While CAIR denies this claim, National Public Radio reported last
spring that it spoke with “18 former employees at the national office
and several prominent chapters who said there was a general lack of
accountability when it came to perceived gender bias, religious bias or
mismanagement. Many of those interviewed, both men and women, asked NPR
not to use their names for fear of legal or professional retaliation.” Saroya ran CAIR’s Minnesota chapter before moving to Washington to work as its chapter development director.
In a Facebook post Sunday, Saroya said it
was clear that CAIR “dropped its lawsuit before it was forced to
produce the documents that demonstrated the truth of what many of us
have been saying about the organization, and before its officers and
board members had to answer questions, under oath, from my attorneys.” “There should be no mistake about what happened here,” she added.
“The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) tried to silence those
of us who have spoken out, and to frighten others into silence.“But CAIR failed. It lost. We won.”…
Texas synagogue gunman identified as Muslim from NOT so great britain, Malik Faisal Akram, who had ‘mental health issues’ By Robert Spencer
Jihad Watch : Well, sure. All jihadis have mental health issues. Nothing they do has anything to do with Islamic texts or teachings. Don’t you know that by now, you greasy Islamophobe? “Feds Identify Synagogue Hostage-Taker as 44-Year-Old British Citizen,” by Dia Gill, Daily Beast, January 16, 2022:
The feds on Sunday identified the gunman who was shot
dead after taking four hostages in a dramatic 10-hour standoff at a
Texas synagogue as 44-year-old Malik Faisal Akram, a British citizen.
The Blackburn Muslim Community in the U.K. confirmed Akram’s death in
a Facebook post on Sunday afternoon, asking the community to “avoid
taking part in the sin of backbiting” as authorities continue to
investigate the attack, which President Joe Biden has called “an act of
terror.” The group shared a statement from Akram’s brother, identified as Gulbar, that condemned the attack.
“We would like to say that we as a family do not condone any of his
actions and would like to sincerely apologize wholeheartedly to all the
victims involved in the unfortunate incident,” he wrote. Hours before the FBI’s announcement, a spokesperson for the British
Foreign Office said they were “aware of the death of a British man in
Texas and are in contact with the local authorities.”
“The FBI’s Evidence Response Team (ERT) will continue processing
evidence at the synagogue,” the FBI wrote in its release. “At this time,
there is no indication that other individuals are involved. The FBI’s
North Texas Joint Terrorism Task Force (NTJTTF), which includes member
agencies from across the region, will continue to follow investigative
leads. An FBI Shooting Incident Review Team (SIRT) will conduct a
thorough, factual, and objective investigation of the events.”…
According to the Gulbar’s statement, the family was aware of Akram’s
involvement during the crisis. They said that despite his “mental health
issues,” they believed he would not harm his captives.
According to Gulbar’s post, the FBI is expected to fly to the U.K. and meet with the family later today.
Fcukedup Bureau of Invetsigation (FBI) : Colleyville hostage crisis was not anti-Semitism, ‘we are continuing to work to find motive’ By Robert Spencer
Jihad Watch : This is a clear example of how clueless and willfully ignorant the FBI
The FBI don’t believe the terrorist hostage taker at the Texas synagogue was an antisemitic event because it was “singularly focused on one issue” which was not “specifically related to the Jewish community.
The bureau has been so thoroughly politicized that agents find
“white supremacism” everywhere, but can’t see Islamic anti-Semitism when
it’s right in front of their faces. Yes, this hostage taker was
narrowly focused on getting convicted jihad terrorist Aafia Siddiqui
freed. However, he went into a synagogue to take hostages. The
Colleyville synagogue has nothing to do with Aafia Siddiqui.
any other synagogue. He went into a synagogue rather than anywhere else
to take hostages because of the complex of beliefs and attitudes he had
about Jews derived from Islamic texts and teachings: that they’re the worst enemies of the Muslims (5:82), plus modern-day conspiracy theories
about how they control everything.
The FBI, once again, is either lying
or stupid, or both.
Meanwhile in NOT so great britain : Islamic charity advises on when and how women should be beaten
Jihad Watch : The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat
those from whom they “fear disobedience”: “Men have authority over women
because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they
spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard
their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from
whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart
and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34
Another hadith states: “Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon
`AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the
lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her
husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It
was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Messenger
came, Aisha said, ‘I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the
believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!’” — Sahih Bukhari 7.77.5825
The National Secular Society has reported an Islamic charity whose website condones violence against women to the regulator. The NSS reported Utrujj Foundation to the Charity Commission after
finding an article on its website that says that a man “has the
permission to ‘strike'” his wife as part of “a process to salvage a
The article, entitled “Can a man beat his wife in Islam?”, is written
by Haytham Tamim, the “founder and main teacher” of Utrujj and one of
the charity’s trustees. It says it is guidance for “the person in charge
of the relationship [on] how to resolve issues when the relationship is
going wrong”. In a section entitled “When is it permissible”, the article says the
“right to beat” wives is “part of a process” if a wife is “undermining
her husband’s authority”.
In another section entitled “What constitutes a strike”, the article
says daraba (striking) is connected to nushuz (arrogance). It says an
example of nushuz is when “the wife is troublesome, causing issues” and
the husband suspects she is “talking to someone behind his back or
receiving someone in his home without his permission”. It says the strike “must not leave a mark” and “must not be on the face”.
Elsewhere, it implies hitting one’s wife is “an act of loyalty and love”….
Virginia: Muslim lawmaker repeats claim that a student pulled off Muslima’s hijab after claim was proven false By Robert Spencer
Jihad Watch : For details of the fake hate crime to which Samirah was referring, see here. “Muslim lawmaker pushes ‘Islamophobia’ narrative, claims hijab pulled
off student’s head — despite police noting false statements, no hate
crime,” by Dave Urbanski, The Blaze, January 11, 2022:
Virginia Democratic Del. Ibraheem Samirah — a Muslim who
made headlines in 2019 for protesting at President Donald Trump’s
address in Jamestown — is in the news again.
Samirah sent a letter Monday
to the Fairfax County School Board, opening the missive in this way:
“Recently a Muslim student from Fairfax High School named Ms. Ekran
Mohamed was viciously bullied by two other students who pulled her hijab
off of her head. This horrific event … demonstrates that we need to
take immediate action to prevent anti-Muslim bigotry and Islamophobia in
our school systems.”
of Fairfax police said no hate crime happened and no racial comments
were made. What’s more, the claim that the female student’s hijab was
pulled off her head was not exactly true, either — police said she told
them her hijab “became partially undone during the altercation, exposing
Oh, and in addition, the female student told police that “information
posted on several social media sites, stating that racial comments were
used during the altercation, were false.”
Thing is, though, Samirah isn’t buying cops’ conclusions. He added in
his letter to the school board that “eyewitnesses have verified that
the individuals who assaulted Ms. Mohammed used Islamophobic slurs and
drew anti-Muslim illustrations in addition to removing Ms. Mohammed’s
With that he urged the school board to adopt “serious curriculum
changes,” including the removal of “all Islamophobic content” —
particularly surrounding the 9/11 attacks — and the institution of
accurate Islam descriptions and the addition of lessons about the
Islamic Golden Age. Samirah also wants accommodations for Muslim
students’ food and prayer needs as well as cultural sensitivity training
for teachers and administrators.
How did folks react to Samirah’s letter?
Samirah received quite a bit of backlash on Twitter for continuing to
beat the “Islamophobia” drum despite the findings of law enforcement:
“You are a source of disinformation,” one commenter told him.
“The police and the girl herself say different you s**t stirring race baiter,” another user replied. “You and your faux victimhood are the problem here.”
“Look at you, a shameless race-hustler, vigorously stirring that
race-baiting pot even AFTER it has been proven that she got into a
fight, that SHE instigated, and then decided to play the victim and
LIE,” another commenter said. “I wonder where she learned that from?”
Another user wrote “typical democRAT, lies and race hustling.”…
ISIS Bride From Alabama Loses Supreme Court Appeal to Return to the U.S.By Robert Spencer
ISIS Bitch & Fcuk Machine screwed again, good for her!!!
Jihad Watch : My latest in PJ Media: On Monday, according to the Associated Press,
“the U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear the appeal of a woman who
left home in Alabama to join the Islamic State terror group, but then
decided she wanted to return to the United States.”
And so Hoda Muthana,
just your average hijab-wearing Alabama gal who decided one day to go
to Syria to join the Islamic State (ISIS), and whose whereabouts are
currently unknown, will not be returning to the U.S., at least not
In declining to hear Muthana’s appeal, the Supreme Court at least in
this instance was showing a refusal to bow to public pressure. That
pressure has been going on for years. In 2019, when Muthana was
initially barred from returning, NBC News ran
a sympathetic piece on her as a down-to-earth girl who made a mistake.
She says she “regrets every single thing” she said in those halcyon days
of the Islamic State and thinks it is only just to let her come back to
Sweet Home Alabama: “Anyone that believes in God believes that everyone
deserves a second chance, no matter how harmful their sins were.”
NBC News certainly agreed. Hoda, NBC told us, spoke to them from a
“refugee camp in Syria where she and her 2-year-old son, Adam, live in a
tent.” She “now claims to reject the extremist ideology that she once
espoused so freely online,” but that isn’t good enough for
“Islamophobic” American officials: she faces, said NBC, “an uphill
battle to be allowed back into the U.S.”
Meanwhile, the poor girl was suffering:
And simply getting by day to day is a struggle, she says.
She says she finds it “hard to get up in the morning” and, despite
being moved from the larger al-Hawl refugee camp for her own safety, is
scared of retribution from whom she calls the more radical women around
her. She also claimed to be afraid of speaking out, saying it could
result in her becoming a target. “I am risking my life doing these types
of interviews,” she said.
Not only that: “I’m scared of my son being here. We can’t afford
bottled water, so we have to drink the tank water and … it causes
stomach aches.” And fumes from oil fields in the vicinity give her and
Adam headaches “every day, every hour almost.”
According to NBC, Hoda Muthana’s plight, her fear, her difficulty
getting out of bed, her stomach aches, her headaches, her day-to-day
struggle, was the fault of — who else? — Donald J. Trump, who said in
2019 that he had ordered then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo not to
allow Hoda to reenter the United States. The Trump administration
contended that Hoda was not an American citizen, for while she was born
in New Jersey, she was the daughter of a Yemeni government official who
was only here temporarily and so was not entitled to birthright
citizenship. Pompeo also bluntly stated the core of the problem with her
returning to Alabama: “She’s a terrorist.” There is more.
Germany: In jealous rage, Muslim migrant cuts off woman’s nose, breasts, and genital area By Robert Spencer
Sunday, January 16, 2022
Jihad Watch : Here is yet another manifestation of the culture of violence that arises
from religious texts which sanction the beating of disobedient women
(Qur’an 4:34). Women are abused in all cultures. However, only in Islam
is the abuse of women given the sanction of the almighty, so that the
perpetrators can go away feeling righteous. Now, there is no sanction for mutilation in Islam. The problem is that
once the abuse is permitted, where to draw the line becomes a subjective
“Horror torture with the kitchen knife! In Berlin in court: the
merciless tormenter of women,” translated from “Horror-Folter mit dem
Küchenmesser! In Berlin vor Gericht: Der Frauen-Quäler ohne Gnade,” Berliner Kurier, January 13, 2022 (thanks to Medforth):
With the last of her strength she reached the window –
gagged, tied up, brutally mutilated. More than nine years after the
fact, her ex-boyfriend is on trial. It is about attempted murder in two cases – cruelly committed. The
woman’s breasts and nose were cut off and her genital area disfigured.
According to the prosecution, he wanted to let her daughter die of
Omid R. (54) in the dock: long beard, hair tied in a plait. Born in
Iraq, his passport is Dutch. He stated IT technician as a profession. He was with the Iranian Banafshe K. for a short time. She, then 36
years old and mother of a ten-year-old daughter, separated. Omid R. –
convicted of violence against his ex-wife – retaliated, according to the
The public prosecutor: “He wanted to rob her of her attractiveness
and her femininity.” He wanted to inflict severe suffering on her – out
of jealousy and anger about the separation. On the morning of October 30, 2012, according to the indictment, he
broke into the Iranian woman’s apartment in Schöneberg, tied her up and
gagged her, and wrapped her face with adhesive tape at mouth level.
Her daughter was also handcuffed and gagged. The girl was then
imprisoned in another room when her mother was tortured to near death.
R. should announce: “If I can’t have you, nobody should have you.” R. is said to have thrown the woman, whose hands and feet were tied,
on the bed and raped her. Then he took a sharp kitchen knife – “he first
cut off her breasts, then the tip of the nose and finally the outer
pubic area,” said the prosecutor.
Omid R. had barricaded windows and doors, then left with the
conviction: Mother and daughter could not save themselves. The defaced
woman would not survive the injuries and her daughter would die of
The Iranian is a joint plaintiff in the process and is represented by
lawyer Roland Weber. You have an “irrepressible will to live,” he said
in front of the hall. That’s why she survived. And because a cyclist
reacted. “And because of the outstanding medical help.” She had to get
through dozens of operations behind her. Thanks to the plastic surgery
in Berlin “the cut nose is very well reconstructed.”
At around 5.45 p.m., the critically injured man managed to get to the
window. A cyclist noticed her, saw the blood-smeared face and called
for help. Police officers now testified as witnesses. They had to detail the
horrific scenes. A policewoman: “The severed body parts were no longer
in the apartment.”
R. is said to have fled to Iran. He was arrested there and also
convicted of the crimes in Berlin. In May 2019 he was released, in March
2020 he fled to the Netherlands and was arrested in the mutilation
case. R. responded that he had already been sentenced for this and
should not be punished twice. But in July 2021 he was extradited to
His lawyers: “At the moment he does not want to talk about it.
To be continued: January 27.
Florida Teen Converts to Islam, Murders 13-Year-Old Boy By Robert Spencer
Corey Johnson 17
Jihad Watch : My latest in PJ Media: When Corey Johnson was 17, he murdered a 13-year-old boy, Jovanni Sierra Brand, and stabbed two other people because they
“idolized celebrities and disrespected his Muslim faith.”
now 21. On Thursday, he got a life sentence for the murder, but no one
seems to be pondering the larger implications of the case.
The UK’s Daily Mail reported Thursday that “Palm Beach
County Judge Cheryl Caracuzzo sentenced Johnson to life in prison and
said on Thursday she did not believe rehabilitation was likely for
Johnson after he remained emotionless during the heartfelt testimony of
When he was in court Thursday, Johnson did make an attempt to show
remorse: “I wish I could take it back, I wish I could do something to
make this right. I’d like to apologize not because it will change
anything, but because I’m really truly sorry.” Johnson also, according
to the Daily Mail, said that he “regretted following the
Islamic extremist group ISIS, and that he hoped to help people to
compensate for the crimes he had committed.”
The most important aspect of this story, however, apart from the
lives lost and ruined, is the fact that Johnson had only recently
converted to Islam when he killed Brand and had already come to the
attention of law enforcement before he committed murder. “At the time of
his arrest for the killing of Jovanni in 2018,” the Daily Mail
reported, “Johnson already had federal charges pending against him for
threatening a Catholic school in England.”
His case was so serious that FBI agents met with administrators at
his high school; Johnson “had reached out to ISIS online saying that he
wished to join the murderous terrorist group.” In October 2016, he sent
threats to McAuley Catholic High School in Doncaster, England (there is
no indication of why he chose that school). “Authorities said the
threats were so serious that up to 100 students withdrew from the school
for fear of an attack.” One of the messages Johnson sent to the school
said: “We have our sights set on you, and by Allah we will kill every
infidel student at this school inshallah) #McAuleySchoolMassacre.”
So he reached out to ISIS, wanted to join the terrorist group, and
sent threats of a jihad massacre to a school. Yet over a year later he
was still running around loose and unsupervised to the extent that he
was able to buy a knife, even though he was underage, and use it on
three people, killing one. Corey Johnson was never placed on a “watch
list.” Nothing was done at all.
at the time of the attack that “in his statement, Johnson advised he
stabbed the victims because of his Muslim faith,” and that “just before
the attack, Johnson was reading the Quran from his phone ‘to give him
courage to carry out his intentions.’” There is more.
You're about to hear some ugly & vicious Islamophobia & anti-Muslim bigotry this weekend from elected officials, commentators and even mainstream media. Hope I'm wrong. People will use it to divide Jewish and Muslim communities for their political agenda. Don't fall for it.
As we have seen many, many times, in every jihad attack, Muslims are
always the true victims, no matter what the circumstances. "Islamophobia" is an allegedly irrational fear of losing life or liberty to Islamic rule merely because the laws, sacred texts, and traditional practices of Islam demand the submission of culture, politics, religion and social expression. It tends to afflict those most familiar with the religion while sparing the more gullible.
Texas Synagogue Hostage Crisis: Jew-Hatred ands Hostage-Taking are Sanctioned in Islam By Robert Spencer
Jihad Watch : My latest in PJ Media: Congregation Beth Israel Synagogue in Colleyville, Texas, was in the
middle of Shabbat services that were being livestreamed on Facebook,
when a gunman burst in and took hostages.
As of this writing, the
situation is ongoing, but some details have already emerged. Amichai Stein of Kan, the Israeli Public Broadcasting Corporation, reports that
“The gunman says he is muslim and holding atleast 6 people says ‘he
will kill people if anyone gets close to the synagogue.’” Before the
livestream from the synagogue was cut off, the gunman could be heard
ranting in a foreign language that, according to journalist and trial attorney Marina Medvin, turned out to be Arabic. Medvin noted that the gunman said, “Are you listening? I am going to die. So don’t cry for me…”
Newsmax national correspondent Logan Ratick tweeted that
“ABC is reporting one suspect has taken the rabbi and three others
hostage at a synagogue in Colleyville, TX. The hostage-taker is claiming
to be armed and says his sister is Aafia Siddiqui, who was convicted in
New York of trying to kill US military personnel (she’s incarcerated).”
The family connections don’t stop there. According to terrorism expert Paul Sperry of The New York Post,
Aafia Siddiqui is “an MIT scientist-turned-al Qaeda agent, who in 2010
was sentenced to 86 years in prison for planning a New York chemical
attack. Known as ‘Lady al Qaeda,’ she is related to 9/11 mastermind
Khalid Sheik Mohammed. ISIS has tried to trade her release for
Why would Aafia Siddiqui’s brother choose a synagogue for his
hostage-taking? Actually, a synagogue would be the most likely target
for such a person, because of the deeply rooted anti-Semitism of the
Qur’an. According to the Qur’an, Jews are called the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims(5:82); they fabricate things and
falsely ascribe them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); they disobey Allah
and never observe his commands (5:13), and Muslims should wage war
against them and subjugate them under Islamic hegemony (9:29), among
many other slanders.
Meanwhile, the abduction of infidels as hostages is sanctioned in
Islamic law and subject to particular rules. The renowned Islamic
scholar al-Mawardi succinctly explained Islamic law for hostages: “As
for the captives, the amir [ruler] has the choice of taking the most
beneficial action of four possibilities: the first to put them to death
by cutting their necks; the second, to enslave them and apply the laws
of slavery regarding their sale and manumission; the third, to ransom
them in exchange for goods or prisoners; and fourth, to show favor to
them and pardon them. Allah, may he be exalted, says, ‘When you
encounter those [infidels] who deny [the Truth=Islam] then strike
[their] necks’ (Qur’an sura 47, verse 4).” There is more.
Hadi remains an existential threat to Malaysia - Commander S THAYAPARAN (Retired) Royal Malaysian Navy
Thursday, January 13, 2022
Wannabe Camel Jockey
Malaysiakini : "PAS ingin bertanya, mengapa kalangan bukan Islam tidak boleh
menerima Islam sebagai penyelesaian masalah dunia, padahal mereka
berjuang untuk menegakkan ideologi kanan dan kiri, sehinggakan ideologi
paling ekstrem yang diciptakan oleh kalangan bukan daripada kaum atau
bangsa malah tidak seagama dengan mereka?"– PAS president Abdul Hadi Awang
COMMENT | Abdul Hadi Awang’s recent rejoinder
of PAS’ commitment to a Malay uber alles government is not merely a
political commitment towards Malaysia’s ethnocratic state of play but
rather a clarion call for believers who understand demographic is
Commander Thaya in the UK
Hadi’s version of Islam is frankly atavistic, the kind of demagoguery that some “Islamic” states are trying to withdraw from.
What makes Hadi so dangerous is not the electoral prospects of PAS.
What makes Hadi so dangerous is not the incompetency of PAS political
operatives on a state or federal level. What makes Hadi so dangerous is
not the biased response of the state when it comes to his provocations.
makes Hadi so dangerous is that his narrative of Islam remains
unchallenged by the political mainstream. Our slowly eroding public and
private spheres is all part of the plan when it comes to turning
Malaysia into an Islamic state.
Think of it this way. Hadi who
used to hold high office in an international Islamic organisation deemed
a terrorist organisation by certain Gulf states, including Saudi
Arabia, is confident enough to claim:
Arab civilisation was respected because of Islam but is now crumbling
under the weight of their own crimes by recognising the Zionist regime
and neglecting Palestine and its rights.
"They are now driven by
their belief and admiration for the Zionist Jewish powers-that-be, more
than to trust in God, Islam and their fellow Muslims."
Weaponising the refugee issue in Malaysia - Commander S THAYAPARAN (Retired) Royal Malaysian Navy
Monday, January 10, 2022
Malaysiakini : “There's no limit to how complicated things can get, on account of one thing always leading to another.” - American writer E B White
COMMENT | Two years back, I got
into trouble with my 'progressive' friends for writing a piece about the
Rohingya issue that was not politically correct. I have not revised my
opinion on the matter.
I reproduce three points from the article
that demonstrate why political operatives and advocacy groups profit
from the Rohingya and refugee issue while further dividing this country.
(1) We should be denying and curtailing the influx of Rohingya into
this country, who for years have been living off the political
machinations of the Malay Muslim political establishment.
was convenient to use these 'economic' migrants for political and
religious purposes, Malay political operatives from both sides of the
divide were using them as examples of the 'injustices' the Muslim
community faced in the world and using them as a rallying cry for local
Facebook censors Catholic charity’s campaign to protect Christian women exposed to violence in Muslim countries By Robert Spencer
Sunday, January 09, 2022
Jihad Watch : It’s clear what was going on here: the campaign was “Islamophobic.” “Facebook have made themselves judge, jury and executioner,” says Neville Kyrke-Smith.
Yes. So have all the social media giants. They exercise more control
over the public discourse today than any totalitarian state ever dreamed
of having. Stalin and Hitler would have been envious. If free societies
are to survive, they must be broken up. “Facebook censors Catholic charity’s anti-violence campaign for women,” ReMix, January 3, 2022:
A UK-based Catholic charity has accused Facebook of
censoring its campaign to protect Christian women who have been exposed
to violence in predominantly Muslim countries.
Aid to the Church in Need (ACN) had launched a digital campaign in
November to raise awareness of the violence often experienced by
persecuted Catholic women in Islamic countries, and had chosen to spend
money on Facebook to promote its posts.
However, the social media giant opted to severely restrict the
organization’s ability to publish adverts online on Facebook, whilst
simultaneously banning the charity from its affiliated platforms,
Instagram and WhatsApp.
Facebook restricted the ACN’s campaign by 90 percent in November,
explaining to the charity that it had taken the measures to limit the
charity’s reach due to a number of users reporting the ads as
“offensive, misleading, sexually inappropriate” or “violent.”
Despite taking action two months ago, the tech giant has not yet
lifted any of the constraints imposed on the organization, and has
repeatedly refused to explain exactly how the adverts violated its
guidelines, despite numerous requests by ACN to do so.
The director of the UK branch of the charity, Neville Kyrke-Smith
slammed the social media company for its lack of transparency or logic
in an official statement which read:
“We are horrified that our campaign which aims to help suffering
women has been censored in such a draconian manner. By claiming to have
banned our advert for violating its guidelines, but refusing to say
which guidelines or how, Facebook have made themselves judge, jury and
The campaign had been directed towards United Nations authorities and
the UK government, and had included a report titled Hear Her Cries
which detailed the acts of sexual violence committed against Christian
women in Muslim-dominated countries such as Nigeria, Mozambique, Iraq,
Egypt, Pakistan and Syria….
‘They threatened to kill all Hindus and burn the village’: Know what exactly happened that led to Hindus boycotting Muslims in Chhattisgarh
According to reports, the action by the miffed Hindus was deliberated by
a scuffle that took place between residents of Aara village and
Kundikala village on January 1. On Thursday, January 6, a video emerged from
Kundikala hamlet in the Sarguja district in Chhattisgarh, showing Hindu
locals swearing to boycott Muslims.
In the video dated January 5, a man
was seen leading almost 200 people in an oath banning Muslim sellers,
boycotting any commercial transactions with members of the Muslim
community and prohibiting the sale or lease of any land to a Muslim. According to reports, the action by the miffed Hindus was deliberated by
a scuffle that took place between residents of Aara village and
Kundikala village on January 1.
In what transpired, a Muslim family from
the Aara village, which falls in neighbouring Balrampur district, had
travelled to Kundikala village on January 1 to celebrate the New Year.
On that day, the Muslim visitors allegedly got into a tussle with a
local Hindu resident and thrashed him up. The victim alleged that the
six Muslim visitors barged into his house and beat him up and two family
members, including his niece.
Hat tip - RoP : Boko Haram's 'deadliest massacre': 2,000 feared dead in Nigeria. This article is more than 7 years. old
Amnesty International calls the killings ‘a disturbing and bloody escalation’ and a local defence group says its fighters have given up trying to count the bodies. Hundreds of bodies – too many to count – remain strewn in the bush in
Nigeria from an Islamic extremist attack that Amnesty International
described as the “deadliest massacre” in the history of Boko Haram.
forces have responded rapidly, and have deployed significant military
assets and conducted air strikes against militant targets,” said a
District head Baba Abba
Hassan said most victims are children, women and elderly people who
could not run fast enough when insurgents drove into Baga, firing
rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles on town residents.
“The human carnage perpetrated by Boko Haram
terrorists in Baga was enormous,” Muhammad Abba Gava, a spokesman for
poorly armed civilians in a defence group that fights Boko Haram, told
the Associated Press.
Most hate I receive is from Muslims: Read why actor Urfi Javed says she doesn’t believe in Islam and will never marry a Muslim man
Hat tip - RoP : Muslim men want their women to behave in a certain way. They want to
control all the women in the community. I don’t believe in Islam because
of this", said the actress.
In one of her latest interviews, Indian television actress Urfi Javed
has spoken at length about her take on Islam. Speaking to the media,
the Bigg Boss OTT fame actress said that she does not believe in Islam and will never marry a Muslim man.
“I am a Muslim girl. Most of the hate comments I receive are from
Muslim people. They say that I am tarnishing the image of Islam. They
hate me because Muslim men want their women to behave in a certain way.
They want to control all the women in the community. I don’t believe in
Islam because of this. The reason why they troll me is because I don’t
behave the way they expect me to as per their religion.”
“I will never marry a Muslim guy. I don’t believe in Islam and I don’t
follow any religion, so I don’t care who I fall in love with. We should
marry whoever we want
Calling Islam regressive the actress scoffed at the idea of Muslim
men forcing their women to wear burqas. She claimed that she is trolled
predominantly by members of her own community because she does not act
in the way that their religion expects her to.
Meanwhile in NOT so great britain : Police probe at Birmingham mosque as visiting imam 'praises murderer' in New Year sermon
Hat tip - ROP : Central Jamia Mosque Ghamkol Sharif, one of the biggest mosques in the
city, is in the spotlight again after a visiting imam invited to lead
prayers during an event allegedly praised executed killer Mumtaz Quadri.
West Midlands Police are investigating after complaints were raised
about the contents of a preacher's sermon at a New Year event at one of
the city's biggest mosques.
A visiting imam, speaking at Central Jamia Mosque Ghamkol Sharif in Small Heath,
was heard to allegedly praise murderer Mumtaz Qadri, who gunned down
Pakistani politician Salman Taseer in cold blood and was later convicted
of murder and executed for the crime.
In the livestream of the prayer gathering on January 1st, posted by a
worshipper on Facebook, the imam, understood to be visiting from
Pakistan, refers to Qadri as "Ghazi" - an Urdu word meaning powerful and
interpreted when used to preface someone's name as meaning 'brave
In the sermon the imam - not a member of the mosque's regular imam
team - recited lines of poetry about sacrificing oneself for a beloved.
in Urdu to male worshippers inside the mosque's grand main hall, he
refers to people who are the 'likes and high standards' of 'Ghazi
Il-Muddin' and 'Ghazi Mumtaz Qadri' who 'left from this world', before
saying the poem that follows was written to laud and praise people like
‘I don’t understand why he is still in Canada,’ judge says after sentencing violent criminal offender “refugee” Mohammed Al-Samaneh
BCF : A Niagara judge has questioned why a violent criminal, who had amassed more than 40 convictions since arriving in Canada from Syria, is still in the country.
“He has lived a life in Canada of persistent criminality,” Judge Joseph De Filippis said in Ontario Court of Justice in St. Catharines Thursday.
“As an aside, and respectfully, I don’t understand why he’s still in Canada.
He is not a Canadian citizen, he’s a permanent resident, and there are rules around permanent residents who commit crimes.”
Mohammed Al-Samaneh, who originally came to Canada as a refugee, has 44 criminal convictions for multiple offences including assault and forcible confinement.
His name is on the National Flagging System which identifies high-risk, violent offenders.
BCF : Last month the UN General Assembly re-affirmed its implacable hostility to one of its own member states. It votedoverwhelmingly — 125-8, with 34 abstentions — to fund an unprecedented permanent Human Rights Council (UNHRC) commission of inquiry (COI) into allegations of war crimes and human rights abuse by Israel. Taxpayers’ funds
will pay an eyewatering $5.5 million budget in the first year alone,
well over twice that of the UNHRC commission investigating the Syrian civil war.
Since its creation in 2006, the council has established 32 inquiries, nine of which — one-third — have focused entirely on Israel. But this latest COI is the first open-ended inquiry it has set up. It has no time-limit and no restriction on its scope. The US voted against the move, saying it "perpetuates a practice of unfairly singling out Israel in the UN". Among the abstainers was Australia, whose representative said, with characteristic plain-speaking: "We oppose anti-Israel bias".
Boston Marathon Bomber Tsarnaev Got $1400 in COVID Relief and Money From Fans By Robert Spencer
Jihad Watch : My latest in PJ Media: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, one of the two brothers who murdered three people
and maimed many others with pressure cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon
on April 15, 2013, has always been something of a rock star among
Unlike, say, 9/11 plotter Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was
famously photographed shortly after his capture looking like something
the cat dragged in, Tsarnaev’s boyish good looks instantly made him a
hero to the Leftist and the stupid, to the extent that he was even
featured on the cover of Rolling Stone, looking like the next teen heartthrob.
And in a certain sense, he is. According to The Washington Post,
“Tsarnaev’s case is noteworthy for the amount of financial support he
receives from people outside his family. Some of his supporters send
money to his federal public defender lawyers, who have sent along
$11,230 of those payments to his account, according to the court filing.
Others send Tsarnaev money directly, including a person in Indiana
whose payments over the years total $2,555, someone in New Jersey who
sent him a total of $1,450 and a Maryland resident who sent a total of
$950, the court filing states.” BizPacReview adds that Tsarnaev raked in “another $3,486.60” from “32 people who were unidentified, according to the filing.”
The court filing they’re talking about is the reason why all this has
come out: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was ordered to pay $101,126,627 to his
victims, but up to now has only paid $2,202.03. Now federal prosecutors
are asking the Bureau of Prisons to seize the $3,885.06 that Tsarnaev
has amassed. It seems that, in the last six years, he has received over
$21,000, including a $1,400 coronavirus relief check from the federal
government, but instead of paying his victims, he has lavished most of
this money on himself and his relatives. He has spent $13,000 on
himself, but news reports unfortunately don’t specify what he spent it
on in prison.
Meanwhile, the fact that he receives money from supporters around the country, while revolting, is not surprising. CBS Boston reported
back in July of 2013 that “a small group of demonstrators showed up at
Moakley Federal Courthouse in South Boston” to show support for Tsarnaev
when he appeared in court for the first time after the bombings. This
group actually “cheered as the motorcade carrying Tsarnaev arrived at
the courthouse. The demonstrators yelled ‘Justice for Jahar,’ as
Tsarnaev is known. One woman held a sign that said, ‘Free Jahar.’”
Meanwhile, “others held signs claiming Tsarnaev’s innocence, while
suggesting elaborate conspiracies surrounding the bombing and Tsarnaev’s
arrest.” There is more.
India: Muslim hairdresser spits in Hindu women’s hair By Robert Spencer
Jihad Watch : Habib is apparently demonstrating his contempt as a Muslim for Hindus and Hinduism. “Another video of Jawed Habib spitting on a woman appears, netizens demand action against the hairdresser,” OpIndia, January 7, 2022:
While sharing the video, Sudarshan News alleged that
Jawed Habib knows that the maang (parting of hair) is considered very
holy in Sanatan Dharma, and therefore he deliberately spits on it.
Another video of Jawed Habib spitting on his customers has appeared
on social media on 6th January 2022. In this video, the hairdresser is
seen spitting on the hair of a young lad. Earlier a case was registered against him when he was seen spitting on
the hair of a woman named Pooja Gupta while dressing her hair in a
program organized in Muzaffarnagar. It was a seminar conducted by the
Wondersoft Professional, which is managed by Mohammad Aman. Pooja Gupta
was called onto the stage by Habib for a haircut demonstration. NCW had
taken serious note of this incident.
Now with this new video shared by Sudarshan News, Jawed Habib is
again seen spitting on the hair of his customers and people are
demanding strict action against him for this. It is notable that the the
date and location of the video is note [sic] known yet.
While sharing the video, Sudarshan News alleged that Jawed Habib
knows that the maang (parting of hair) is considered very holy in
Sanatan Dharma, and therefore he deliberately spits on it.
The spitting hairdresser
Jawed Habib came on to the flame of criticism and outrage when he was
recently seen spitting on the hair of a woman named Pooja Gupta. He was
dressing her hair as a part of a haircut demonstration during a seminar
conducted by Mohammda Aman’s the Wondersoft Professional. This incident
happened in Muzaffarnagar. NCW took serious cognizance of this
incident. It said that the chairperson Rekha Sharma has written to the
DGP Uttar Pradesh to immediately investigate the veracity of this viral
video and take appropriate action.
NCW added that the action taken must
be apprised to the Commission at the earliest….