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Lessons should be on all beliefs, not just one
Tuesday, December 13, 2022

Close Minded Lebai

Malaysiakini : 'Studying Mandarin and understanding Islam are two different issues.'

Scholar moots Mandarin, Islam lessons to foster understanding

Vijay47: Like Greeks bearing gifts, Muslim scholars suggest Islamic studies to non-Muslims as the path towards national unity generally should not be trusted.

We have heard that song before - many times. Remember the jawi lessons on TV a happy mixed lifetime ago? It was assumed to be just educational with no intrusion of religion, but before we could say “My Sweet Lord”, it had mutated into Islamic lessons.

So please, religious scholar Engku Ahmad Fadzil Engku Ali, PAS president Abdul Hadi Awang, preacher Zakir Naik, that guy from Perlis, and the rest of the spiritual boys, spare us your brand of proposals towards healing the world. Your venture into national unity and peace on earth to men of goodwill comes with a new flavour of cunningness – Mandarin and Islamic lessons.

Thus your attempt to present your credentials as an open-minded scholar. ‘Hey! I can’t be a bad guy since I have also included Mandarin in my prescription!’ Yeah, sure. If you hold that your proposed lessons on Islam to non-Muslims are only for the sharing of knowledge without any religious indoctrination, won’t that goal be better achieved on a four-lane highway – Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism are also included?

What a wonderful world it would be, with Malaysians freely practising their faiths even as they know and respect other beliefs.

David Dass: I think that it is a good idea for all Malaysians to have some knowledge of the culture and religious beliefs of each other. Knowledge will give all a positive understanding of the culture and beliefs of others.

The reality of faith or religious belief is that the adherent sees the beauty, majesty and truthfulness of his understanding of the creator, the universe and his place in it through his beliefs.

Article 3 of the Constitution making Islam the religion of the Federation does not require non-Muslims to believe in Islam. Nor does it give the government the authority to compel the learning of Islam. But a subject that requires all students to acquire a basic knowledge of all religions of the world would be a good idea and would be acceptable to all.

The object of such learning will not be conversion but knowledge and understanding. All should accept that faith is an intensely personal matter and nothing should be done to interfere with the guarantee of freedom of worship that is provided for in the Constitution.

Bobbyo: Studying Mandarin and understanding Islam are two different issues. If you want to foster a relationship, have more programmes to bring them together. Sporting, cultural, debating or even various forms of celebrations can bring people together.

Please do not include religion as a subject to unite. Then they would want the Muslims to know Hinduism, Christianity or even the other various beliefs better. Do not use this aspect to spread your religion as religion is a very sensitive topic. Let us use other ideas to try and bring people together.

Coward: We have a good understanding of each other, thank you very much. There is no need for Muslims to learn mandarin, nor for non-Muslims to learn more about Islam. Our understanding of each other is good enough that we went beyond coexistence to fully integrate long before you and I arrived at the scene.

The fact that you think non-Muslims think Islam is a religion of terrorism is alarming, not because we don't, but because you think we do. If, after living with my Muslim brothers for more than 60 years since independence, I still throw away all the good deeds of my Muslim brothers worldwide and in Malaysia and choose to associate them with the extremely tiny minority of extremists, then I deserve your criticism.

This is also not a trade; Mandarin is for Islam. Its premise is already wrong. Respect for each other can only be earned, not traded.

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posted by Major D Swami (Retired) @ 10:17 AM  
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