Rudyard Kipling"
“When you're left wounded on Afganistan's plains and
the women come out to cut up what remains, Just roll to your rifle
and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier”
General Douglas MacArthur"
“We are not retreating. We are advancing in another direction.”
“It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.” “Old soldiers never die; they just fade away.
“The soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and be the deepest wounds and scars of war.”
“May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't .” “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
“Nobody ever defended, there is only attack and attack and attack some more.
“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.
The Soldier stood and faced God
Which must always come to pass
He hoped his shoes were shining
Just as bright as his brass
"Step forward you Soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?"
"No, Lord, I guess I ain't
Because those of us who carry guns
Can't always be a saint."
I've had to work on Sundays
And at times my talk was tough,
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.
But, I never took a penny
That wasn't mine to keep.
Though I worked a lot of overtime
When the bills got just too steep,
The Soldier squared his shoulders and said
And I never passed a cry for help
Though at times I shook with fear,
And sometimes, God forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.
I know I don't deserve a place
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around
Except to calm their fears.
If you've a place for me here,
Lord, It needn't be so grand,
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't, I'll understand."
There was silence all around the throne
Where the saints had often trod
As the Soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.
"Step forward now, you Soldier,
You've borne your burden well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell."
Drsaravananr: What
does Hindraf really want? I think it has lost the plot. As far as the
Gelang Patah document is concerned, DAP has acknowledged and adopted
Hindraf's demands and has put them into the mainstream struggle. I see no wrong done here. It's a case of damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Arankanathan: If DAP has taken from Hindraf's Indian blueprint, what is the problem? Isn't that is what Hindraf wants? Hindraf
national adviser N Ganesan does not want to debate BN which has called
them terrorists and jailed its leaders, but wants to debate DAP which is
not even in the federal government yet.
Louis: What columnist Mariam Mokhtar wrote about Hindrafis
absolutely true. It would rather pick faults on the opposition rather
than Umno. They are so forgiving of Umno's past, but gravely annoyed at
Pakatan's mistakes. Now Ganesan wants to debate with DAP veteran
Lim Kit Siang. That's a real joke. Ganesan, the right person for Hindraf
to debate is with PM Najib Razak, who claims that Indians were never
marginalised. In fact, Pakatan has been very patient with Hindraf; personally, I would have told them to get lost.
Progressive: Ganesan, what is wrong with DAP adopting elements from your blueprint? Isn't that what you want for the poor Indians? What
plagiarism? Was the blueprint your PhD thesis? So you are now attacking
Pakatan Rakyat and trying to go to bed with a corrupt regime that has
sidelined the Indians. Ganesan, you can't run with the hare and hunt with the hounds. You have to take a stand and not try to play both sides. Understandably,
you are bitter with Pakatan because they did not give you the eight
parliamentary and 10 state seats you demanded.
Anonymous #31685940:
Hindraf, please don't take Indians as stupid. Please tell me what is
the difference between endorsing and adopting the blueprint. The end
result is whether they will implement it. What is your purpose
in coming out with the blueprint? If your sole purpose is for the
Indians to benefit, then the more parties adopt the blueprint, the
better it is for the Indians. Kudos to you for highlighting the
plight of the Indians. But please don't let people doubt your sincerity
by you calling for a debate on who came out with the idea first.
KitaAkanSiasat:
Ganesan, Pakatan has tried to negotiate on your blueprint but during
this negotiation, your sincerity reeked of a very different agenda by
asking for an unthinkable number of seats from Pakatan. Why don't
you guys just continue to be an NGO that takes care of the welfare of
the Indian Malaysians without going into politics? If you are
really sincere about change, sit with Pakatan, support its cause for
change, then advise them on the welfare matters of the Indians.
Kgen: Hindraf
displays its true colours. It has soft words for BN and only harsh
words for the opposition. I expect Hindraf to endorse BN soon, a
sell-out of the Indian poor for political opportunism. These
Hindraf people will be made datuks and senators if BN wins. Ganesan's
outburst has clearly shown that it's not about helping the Indian poor;
it's about using them for personal advancement.
Fair&Just: DAP
has graciously confirmed some of the points in the Hindraf blueprint
now and said that if Pakatan gets into government, most of the points in
the blueprint would materialise. If at that time there is no
progress, only then should Hindraf go after DAP. Why attack DAP now? The
culprit for all the suffering, discrimination, oppression, suppression,
intimidation and bigotry is UMNO.
Bijan: BN is a
caretaker government now, they can't sign anything including a contract
or a blueprint, yet Hindraf still expects to meet the PM for a second
round of discussions. Even if the PM promises anything now, it
would be useless, just lip service. After 56 years, BN have not
fulfilled their promises, do you think they will keep their promise now?
YF: Notice
how Hindraf did not demand UMNO for a debate. Why the double standards?
Even if DAP accepts Hindraf's points, they are wrong; if they don't
accept, they are also wrong. So what does Hindraf want? And with
the elections coming they now want a debate? Hindraf has surely sold out
the Indians and now sides with Umno, the very devil that calls our
Indian brothers pariah and have confined them to street sweeping for
eternity. Is this what Hindraf is all about? That they are
willing to sell their soul to the devil and forget the cause of the poor
Indians and every other poor Malaysian who has suffered under the Umno
regime?
Gongming: Is there such a thing as
plagiarising a policy or manifesto? Can another person not think of the
same or similar policies and solutions to people's problems? Does Hindraf think they are the only ones who can speak for the Indians? Do they think they own the Indians in this country? Tell me how many Indians are behind them - 90 percent, 70 percent... I
would be surprised if that number is even 10 percent. Hindraf, don't
speak on behalf of the Indians as if you own us.
Melayu Tulen: Ganesan,
sorry to say that Hindraf's leaders are now becoming opportunists. The
basic fundamental point Hindraf was formed was to kick UMNO out. Now, you try to sleep with them, furthermore on the same bed. Malaysiakini
Drsaravananr: What
does Hindraf really want? I think it has lost the plot. As far as the
Gelang Patah document is concerned, DAP has acknowledged and adopted
Hindraf's demands and has put them into the mainstream struggle. I see no wrong done here. It's a case of damned if they do, damned if they don't.
